1 00:00:04,220 --> 00:00:02,210 hi everybody I'm bill burns yeah nancy 2 00:00:07,369 --> 00:00:04,230 burns here I work in future theater and 3 00:00:12,620 --> 00:00:07,379 you know we like to listen to mmm radio 4 00:00:15,169 --> 00:00:12,630 on sunday nights at 9pm 9pm whatever oh 5 00:00:17,990 --> 00:00:15,179 oh the best network on the whole entire 6 00:00:20,540 --> 00:00:18,000 internet inception radio network you're 7 00:01:10,840 --> 00:00:20,550 locked into inception radio network 8 00:01:10,850 --> 00:01:17,970 Radio white glue 9 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:21,300 welcome folks to paying radio tonight is 10 00:01:27,970 --> 00:01:25,250 Wednesday November fifth 2014 this is a 11 00:01:30,490 --> 00:01:27,980 paying radio special tonight we have 12 00:01:32,530 --> 00:01:30,500 some breaking news and some great stuff 13 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:32,540 in store for you tonight this is a kind 14 00:01:35,140 --> 00:01:33,890 of weird night to be on the air but a 15 00:01:37,510 --> 00:01:35,150 Wednesday we're going to be on an hour 16 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:37,520 out California MUFON radio with learning 17 00:01:42,750 --> 00:01:40,250 and fenton will be up in two hours but 18 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:42,760 we have on our guests tonight we have 19 00:01:47,890 --> 00:01:46,370 Brandon on and of course my co-host mr. 20 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:47,900 Storch is going to kind of talk about 21 00:01:51,250 --> 00:01:49,130 what the show is about and do a few 22 00:01:53,050 --> 00:01:51,260 shots and go ahead and take it can hey 23 00:01:56,590 --> 00:01:53,060 all right well listen this is kind of 24 00:01:58,720 --> 00:01:56,600 deja vu you know wednesday at eight 25 00:02:01,660 --> 00:01:58,730 o'clock here in northeast oklahoma used 26 00:02:03,270 --> 00:02:01,670 to be the old paradigm unhinged our kind 27 00:02:07,210 --> 00:02:03,280 of returning to the scene of the crime 28 00:02:10,030 --> 00:02:07,220 if you will but hey i want to do a 29 00:02:14,290 --> 00:02:10,040 couple shoutouts I know George and and 30 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:14,300 Doug and and the Oklahoma UFO paranormal 31 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:17,570 team Maryland and Dick are listening in 32 00:02:22,420 --> 00:02:20,450 tonight and yes Marilyn I have some of 33 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:22,430 your questions ready to go for Brandon 34 00:02:29,650 --> 00:02:26,570 and this is a there's a couple of things 35 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:29,660 I want to say before we get into the 36 00:02:35,890 --> 00:02:31,970 meat and potatoes and and one of them is 37 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:35,900 is that this is an ongoing research 38 00:02:41,530 --> 00:02:37,850 investigation however you want to label 39 00:02:44,820 --> 00:02:41,540 it so there are some things that I I do 40 00:02:48,430 --> 00:02:44,830 know that I'm not going to reveal only 41 00:02:51,210 --> 00:02:48,440 to maintain continuity of this 42 00:02:56,920 --> 00:02:51,220 investigation and be able to verify 43 00:02:59,979 --> 00:02:56,930 information as it comes in and the ni 44 00:03:03,190 --> 00:02:59,989 having said that I want to there are 45 00:03:07,090 --> 00:03:03,200 three levels when I do an investigation 46 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:07,100 whether it's flying saucers or when I 47 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:09,650 was law enforcement and criminal 48 00:03:13,540 --> 00:03:12,170 investigation and I've said this a 49 00:03:15,940 --> 00:03:13,550 number of times and I just want to 50 00:03:18,550 --> 00:03:15,950 reiterate it so that you know where my 51 00:03:20,170 --> 00:03:18,560 listeners my listeners our listeners it 52 00:03:23,470 --> 00:03:20,180 was kind of a conceited statement within 53 00:03:27,570 --> 00:03:23,480 that took images that's okay yeah oh boy 54 00:03:31,950 --> 00:03:27,580 no I wouldn't afford Ian slip but 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:31,960 those three levels of proof if you will 56 00:03:40,110 --> 00:03:36,730 for me and you know the court system and 57 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:40,120 that is reasonable suspicion and then 58 00:03:44,190 --> 00:03:42,130 there's probable cause and then there's 59 00:03:48,450 --> 00:03:44,200 proof beyond a reasonable doubt and in 60 00:03:50,790 --> 00:03:48,460 order for me personally to get to proof 61 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:50,800 beyond a reasonable doubt in any 62 00:03:55,740 --> 00:03:53,410 investigation you hold back certain 63 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:55,750 information so that as you go down this 64 00:04:01,020 --> 00:03:58,720 path you can verify it and know that you 65 00:04:04,410 --> 00:04:01,030 continue to talk to people and evidence 66 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:04,420 that's coming forward or is legit and so 67 00:04:09,990 --> 00:04:07,090 at this stage of the game edit I'm at 68 00:04:12,230 --> 00:04:10,000 reasonable suspicion but there's a lot 69 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:12,240 of smoke let's put it that way and 70 00:04:22,740 --> 00:04:16,570 tonight we have a gentleman that I've 71 00:04:31,370 --> 00:04:22,750 known for 37 years and I can vouch for 72 00:04:36,510 --> 00:04:34,200 refer to him as brand and and that is 73 00:04:40,980 --> 00:04:36,520 his real first name by the way Brandon 74 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:40,990 welcome to paying radio and in the show 75 00:04:45,930 --> 00:04:43,840 tonight well thank you thank you for 76 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:45,940 having me hey well I wonder our 77 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:50,050 listeners to know that Brandon is first 78 00:04:59,790 --> 00:04:52,960 hit what we would refer to as first-hand 79 00:05:02,970 --> 00:04:59,800 witness he met this gentleman that had 80 00:05:06,210 --> 00:05:02,980 an extraordinary story mm-hmm and there 81 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:06,220 is some extraordinary details to this 82 00:05:10,830 --> 00:05:07,570 story and as we go down this path 83 00:05:17,310 --> 00:05:10,840 tonight we'll reveal them but it has to 84 00:05:21,260 --> 00:05:17,320 do with the first Iraq war has to do 85 00:05:23,580 --> 00:05:21,270 with general Schwarzkopf battle plan and 86 00:05:25,469 --> 00:05:23,590 before we go any further Brandon why 87 00:05:28,020 --> 00:05:25,479 don't we just tell the audience how you 88 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:28,030 met this gentleman how did you come in 89 00:05:33,930 --> 00:05:31,090 contact with Ryan and that's will use 90 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:33,940 his name Ryan what's a funny story in 91 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:37,510 itself I met him through my job working 92 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:39,370 at a local local grocery called king 93 00:05:46,230 --> 00:05:41,130 soopers here in Colorado 94 00:05:48,860 --> 00:05:46,240 and I met him too nervous people who 95 00:05:52,890 --> 00:05:48,870 said or someone coming in to rob a store 96 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:52,900 wearing full-body armor and what I mean 97 00:05:57,150 --> 00:05:55,290 my dad's Kevlar helmet kavalar vest 98 00:05:59,280 --> 00:05:57,160 stuff at anything it would cover the 99 00:06:01,980 --> 00:05:59,290 final parts of a human body this guy is 100 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:01,990 wearing hey Brandon yeah he was wearing 101 00:06:07,620 --> 00:06:04,630 a flak jacket I mean out body armor on 102 00:06:10,590 --> 00:06:07,630 the outside but i would say more than ba 103 00:06:16,170 --> 00:06:10,600 a flapjack we're talking kavalar vest 104 00:06:18,659 --> 00:06:16,180 which is military-grade okay well just 105 00:06:20,330 --> 00:06:18,669 let me stop people right there real 106 00:06:23,330 --> 00:06:20,340 quick so they know your background 107 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:23,340 Brandon you served in the military dunya 108 00:06:29,159 --> 00:06:26,650 yes correct I want you tell them our 109 00:06:31,409 --> 00:06:29,169 listeners so that way they'll know that 110 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:31,419 when you looked at this guy you were you 111 00:06:35,370 --> 00:06:32,770 recognize what it is that you were 112 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:35,380 seeing well you were in the United 113 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:37,510 States Army weren't you how's mean I 114 00:06:43,950 --> 00:06:40,240 States Army in the infantry so I was in 115 00:06:47,840 --> 00:06:43,960 combat arms myself you were that kind of 116 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:47,850 quipment all the time or time we did a 117 00:06:55,430 --> 00:06:50,350 I'll feel diminishing your where a fling 118 00:07:02,490 --> 00:07:00,330 okay so now you you're providing 119 00:07:06,330 --> 00:07:02,500 security for this grocery store king 120 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:06,340 soopers and you get a call that there's 121 00:07:10,710 --> 00:07:08,530 somebody in the store that they nervous 122 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:10,720 customers were and some employees I take 123 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:12,250 it were thinking that they were going to 124 00:07:17,730 --> 00:07:15,039 get robbed right that's correct when I 125 00:07:20,190 --> 00:07:17,740 did I Pan the camera around I see this 126 00:07:23,490 --> 00:07:20,200 guy and he's back in the deli section of 127 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:23,500 the store and I was like oh Jesus no 128 00:07:28,380 --> 00:07:26,530 kidding this guy is legit about this guy 129 00:07:32,300 --> 00:07:28,390 this guy is not kind of shady so I 130 00:07:35,930 --> 00:07:32,310 called the local police department and 131 00:07:38,370 --> 00:07:35,940 within 10 15 20 minutes they showed up 132 00:07:39,570 --> 00:07:38,380 now you didn't approach you didn't 133 00:07:42,170 --> 00:07:39,580 approach this gentleman you kept him 134 00:07:44,790 --> 00:07:42,180 under surveillance by low-calorie right 135 00:07:46,980 --> 00:07:44,800 company standard just keep surveillance 136 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:46,990 make sure you have all stuff you need in 137 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:48,250 case something were to go down you have 138 00:07:54,110 --> 00:07:51,010 all the evidence but the company would 139 00:07:57,230 --> 00:07:54,120 need so 140 00:07:58,780 --> 00:07:57,240 about 20-25 minutes ago littleton we 141 00:08:01,120 --> 00:07:58,790 have not police department showed up 142 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:01,130 knocked on my door they're like hey 143 00:08:07,490 --> 00:08:04,050 responding to your call and just let you 144 00:08:09,620 --> 00:08:07,500 know this guy is okay he's safe he's 145 00:08:12,830 --> 00:08:09,630 just paranoid that the government's out 146 00:08:14,629 --> 00:08:12,840 to get him well that's kind of strange 147 00:08:18,710 --> 00:08:14,639 when he means out the ghetto he claims 148 00:08:22,159 --> 00:08:18,720 he's ex-navy seal and he's just paranoid 149 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:22,169 using the government's out the ghetto so 150 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:24,210 I was like well that's kind of weird so 151 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:25,770 half and on for next couple of weeks I 152 00:08:31,219 --> 00:08:27,690 keep seeing this guy coming in always 153 00:08:33,019 --> 00:08:31,229 wearing the ballistic armor always doing 154 00:08:36,469 --> 00:08:33,029 you know small little things getting 155 00:08:39,890 --> 00:08:36,479 milk bread cheese and on his way I took 156 00:08:41,450 --> 00:08:39,900 it upon myself going being a vet oh my 157 00:08:44,570 --> 00:08:41,460 get to know this guy this guy seems kind 158 00:08:46,940 --> 00:08:44,580 of interesting to me and over a couple 159 00:08:48,860 --> 00:08:46,950 month period I got to know on first-name 160 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:48,870 basis hey no let me stop you right there 161 00:08:53,450 --> 00:08:51,330 real quick what would your this was a 162 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:53,460 couple years ago right yeah about two 163 00:08:57,230 --> 00:08:55,770 thousand seven time period okay okay i 164 00:09:01,490 --> 00:08:57,240 just want to give our listeners a time 165 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:01,500 frame go ahead so after getting to know 166 00:09:04,730 --> 00:09:02,850 the guy for a little bit i had to ask 167 00:09:06,949 --> 00:09:04,740 him go what's with the UH what's with 168 00:09:10,449 --> 00:09:06,959 all the body armor he goes you wouldn't 169 00:09:15,590 --> 00:09:10,459 believe me if I told you I will try me 170 00:09:18,110 --> 00:09:15,600 he says that I'm an ex-navy seal and the 171 00:09:21,260 --> 00:09:18,120 government wants to kill me for what I 172 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:21,270 know I don't know about what he goes 173 00:09:27,650 --> 00:09:23,370 what happened in the first war the first 174 00:09:29,900 --> 00:09:27,660 Iraqi you are I go well i was just 175 00:09:33,110 --> 00:09:29,910 finishing up high school I just know 176 00:09:36,740 --> 00:09:33,120 what was told to me before I entered the 177 00:09:38,890 --> 00:09:36,750 service myself he goes well be here 178 00:09:42,740 --> 00:09:38,900 tomorrow and I'll tell you a story so 179 00:09:45,170 --> 00:09:42,750 next day comes by and Ryan shows up and 180 00:09:48,170 --> 00:09:45,180 he has a folder with them he goes on 181 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:48,180 first off I'll tell you is the year I 182 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:51,570 graduated from buds which is Special 183 00:09:58,730 --> 00:09:55,890 Operations SEAL training was in 1996 so 184 00:10:00,680 --> 00:09:58,740 you went through his q course it goes 185 00:10:02,030 --> 00:10:00,690 here's my pitcher here's all the fun 186 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:02,040 stuff that goes along with it yours by 187 00:10:06,380 --> 00:10:04,410 DD 214 okay let you all that so one of 188 00:10:09,230 --> 00:10:06,390 the questions at one of our 189 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:09,240 listeners I have written down you saw 190 00:10:13,610 --> 00:10:12,090 his DD 214 one why don't you explain 191 00:10:16,850 --> 00:10:13,620 that to our listeners just so they know 192 00:10:19,250 --> 00:10:16,860 what that government initial stands for 193 00:10:20,780 --> 00:10:19,260 I've got one you've got one at anybody 194 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:20,790 it's been at the military George I think 195 00:10:26,330 --> 00:10:23,370 you got one but Doug and I know dick 196 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:26,340 you've got one so go ahead DD 14 just 197 00:10:33,140 --> 00:10:29,490 basically tells one person service time 198 00:10:35,930 --> 00:10:33,150 what he did not do in the service now 199 00:10:39,590 --> 00:10:35,940 for mine for example it says you know 11 200 00:10:41,780 --> 00:10:39,600 Bravo did time overseas metals observe 201 00:10:45,170 --> 00:10:41,790 stuff like that just qualifies you as 202 00:10:47,030 --> 00:10:45,180 your vetting better that status will put 203 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:47,040 it that way and you're in your discharge 204 00:10:51,950 --> 00:10:49,410 status your discharge i will say 205 00:10:54,680 --> 00:10:51,960 honorably discharged and so forth so now 206 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:54,690 you saw his DD 214 did it substantiate 207 00:11:00,770 --> 00:10:58,050 his claim as being a Navy SEAL it 208 00:11:02,570 --> 00:11:00,780 sometimes that that it was a Department 209 00:11:04,910 --> 00:11:02,580 of the Navy it didn't go into much 210 00:11:08,750 --> 00:11:04,920 detail what it was it did say 211 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:08,760 demolitions expert and then it was you 212 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:11,130 know very vague you didn't say I was you 213 00:11:14,260 --> 00:11:12,810 know SEAL Team command or anything like 214 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:14,270 that just says right right right 215 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:17,600 demolitions of the Department of Navy ok 216 00:11:24,380 --> 00:11:20,370 much like mine but minus you know all 217 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:24,390 that our jargon so I go okay well tell 218 00:11:28,820 --> 00:11:26,160 me he goes well I'm gonna take you back 219 00:11:31,390 --> 00:11:28,830 in history a little bit Brandon he goes 220 00:11:36,770 --> 00:11:31,400 let's go back to the first Iraq war 221 00:11:38,570 --> 00:11:36,780 saddam hussein invaded kuwait yeah yeah 222 00:11:41,890 --> 00:11:38,580 yeah he knows part of the Union 223 00:11:45,380 --> 00:11:41,900 coalition on a george bush senior was to 224 00:11:48,020 --> 00:11:45,390 liberate the kuwait people and to do 225 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:48,030 that he went to the most knowledgeable 226 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:50,850 person of the Middle East which was 227 00:11:56,210 --> 00:11:53,850 general Schwarzkopf by most people know 228 00:11:58,760 --> 00:11:56,220 he lived over that area for a length of 229 00:12:00,410 --> 00:11:58,770 time and knew how to deal with the 230 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:00,420 middle eastern cape I think he lived in 231 00:12:06,980 --> 00:12:03,690 in the Middle East for like thirty some 232 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:06,990 years short yeah he was yeah that's 233 00:12:14,030 --> 00:12:12,450 verifiable the true he did now chores 234 00:12:16,250 --> 00:12:14,040 claw or Bush went to Swartz coughing 235 00:12:18,890 --> 00:12:16,260 goes will give me a battle plan swarf 236 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:18,900 cough goals pretty simple to send a 237 00:12:23,310 --> 00:12:20,110 message to the middle 238 00:12:26,610 --> 00:12:23,320 people we have to go in and we have to 239 00:12:28,829 --> 00:12:26,620 kill Saddam Hussein there's no it's 240 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:28,839 about about it this is the mission and 241 00:12:32,699 --> 00:12:30,610 set forth do it my way and the Middle 242 00:12:37,889 --> 00:12:32,709 East for not mess with this for many 243 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:37,899 many years george bush senior agreed to 244 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:41,230 that plan and thus start off the first 245 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:45,850 Iraq war but prior to that we had a 246 00:12:53,550 --> 00:12:50,410 bunch of we call it surgical airstrikes 247 00:12:56,780 --> 00:12:53,560 we had a whole bunch of black op 248 00:12:59,970 --> 00:12:56,790 missions that took place Ryan's mission 249 00:13:03,810 --> 00:12:59,980 part of his a special forces unit was to 250 00:13:07,410 --> 00:13:03,820 go behind enemy lines 30 or 40 miles 251 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:07,420 behind enemy lines into what is known as 252 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:11,170 modern-day Iraq to set up fuel and ammo 253 00:13:22,650 --> 00:13:15,850 Depot's for when the main army comes 254 00:13:25,170 --> 00:13:22,660 across for the main battle now they lost 255 00:13:28,769 --> 00:13:25,180 ovate this was behind they went behind 256 00:13:31,530 --> 00:13:28,779 the Iraqi lines and set up his fuel dump 257 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:31,540 to resupply these armored vehicles that 258 00:13:36,630 --> 00:13:32,890 are going to come crashing across the 259 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:36,640 desert right correct tanks Bradley's all 260 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:38,890 the infantry guys that be coming across 261 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:42,490 the desert to basically the speed up the 262 00:13:46,350 --> 00:13:43,930 process that way we're not stopping 263 00:13:48,269 --> 00:13:46,360 refueling they can just do it so Ryan 264 00:13:50,699 --> 00:13:48,279 was part of that he was he was in the 265 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:50,709 Navy SEALs at that time or at least he 266 00:13:58,319 --> 00:13:54,130 was overseas in Iraq and and was part of 267 00:14:00,930 --> 00:13:58,329 that mission correct but I think about 268 00:14:04,130 --> 00:14:00,940 Ryan's unit is they lost contact with 269 00:14:06,569 --> 00:14:04,140 Ryan's unit say what the department 270 00:14:10,319 --> 00:14:06,579 thought they were either at KI a or 271 00:14:16,769 --> 00:14:10,329 m.i.a which is ki is killed in action or 272 00:14:19,019 --> 00:14:16,779 mi is missing in action and when the war 273 00:14:20,759 --> 00:14:19,029 finally kicked off part of the army 274 00:14:25,290 --> 00:14:20,769 brigade came across the desert and they 275 00:14:27,090 --> 00:14:25,300 met up with Ryan junit anything goes the 276 00:14:28,949 --> 00:14:27,100 colonel goes we been trying to get 277 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:28,959 contact with you we have lost all 278 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:31,690 contact you guys are actually missing in 279 00:14:36,930 --> 00:14:32,800 action used 280 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:36,940 physical document missing in action line 281 00:14:41,370 --> 00:14:39,250 goes well or not we're right here we've 282 00:14:44,639 --> 00:14:41,380 always been here none of that's ever 283 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:44,649 changed and how many did do we know how 284 00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:47,050 many people were in his unit that were 285 00:14:52,319 --> 00:14:48,880 behind enemy lines that were at that 286 00:14:53,850 --> 00:14:52,329 specific location that i do not know i 287 00:14:56,430 --> 00:14:53,860 never got that kind of information on 288 00:14:59,400 --> 00:14:56,440 him okay okay so go ahead and majan it's 289 00:15:02,699 --> 00:14:59,410 probably the majority of his team I 290 00:15:06,690 --> 00:15:02,709 would imagine but anyway they set up a 291 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:06,700 field deepali lost contact and what came 292 00:15:11,970 --> 00:15:09,360 about was when the army came through and 293 00:15:15,389 --> 00:15:11,980 the tank battalions came in or like we 294 00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:15,399 lost contact with you why and it's like 295 00:15:21,449 --> 00:15:17,920 well that's funny you ask that because 296 00:15:24,569 --> 00:15:21,459 now you two cannot communicate with the 297 00:15:27,569 --> 00:15:24,579 military and by this time we are using 298 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:27,579 what they call SATCOM radios which 299 00:15:33,780 --> 00:15:32,170 communicates with salads which speeds up 300 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:33,790 the communication on the battlefield for 301 00:15:40,699 --> 00:15:36,370 most commanders all those satellites all 302 00:15:45,170 --> 00:15:43,470 whoa incredible what's going on he goes 303 00:15:48,510 --> 00:15:45,180 that's funny you ask that let's show you 304 00:15:51,180 --> 00:15:48,520 so you walked over and he showed the 305 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:51,190 colonel a pyramid sticking out of the 306 00:15:57,180 --> 00:15:54,850 ground just a heart when he said up here 307 00:15:59,430 --> 00:15:57,190 okay go ahead I'm sorry I cut into it it 308 00:16:01,290 --> 00:15:59,440 was just the tip of it right just the 309 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:01,300 tip of it the whole thing was mostly 310 00:16:07,230 --> 00:16:03,910 buried in the in a desert of Iraq but 311 00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:07,240 just the tip of it was hanging out he 312 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:09,670 goes we attract the power source or 313 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:11,050 what's disrupting our commission 314 00:16:17,460 --> 00:16:15,490 communications to this location we don't 315 00:16:21,540 --> 00:16:17,470 know what it is we just know it's 316 00:16:23,579 --> 00:16:21,550 knocked out our communications about 317 00:16:27,689 --> 00:16:23,589 this time in a war period if they 318 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:27,699 wouldn't recall how Iraq was on full 319 00:16:32,009 --> 00:16:30,010 retreat we pretty much hadham defeated 320 00:16:34,410 --> 00:16:32,019 they were pulling out of Kuwait and we 321 00:16:38,389 --> 00:16:34,420 were you know we were kicking their 322 00:16:41,490 --> 00:16:38,399 butts going back to general Schwarzkopf 323 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:41,500 he said we had to go into Iraq we had to 324 00:16:46,319 --> 00:16:44,110 kill Saddam at that point in time we 325 00:16:49,979 --> 00:16:46,329 ceased all military actions against 326 00:16:52,559 --> 00:16:49,989 the Iraqis all combat operations cease 327 00:16:57,929 --> 00:16:52,569 to and we pretty much stopped where 328 00:17:00,150 --> 00:16:57,939 we're at did did Ryan say what well let 329 00:17:03,809 --> 00:17:00,160 me stop right there he he showed you a 330 00:17:07,649 --> 00:17:03,819 picture of the guy he's he showed me the 331 00:17:09,539 --> 00:17:07,659 picture the top of it and when to me 332 00:17:11,519 --> 00:17:09,549 look like was a simple picture would you 333 00:17:14,130 --> 00:17:11,529 see out of Egypt is the tip of the 334 00:17:15,509 --> 00:17:14,140 pyramid let me ask you something right 335 00:17:17,370 --> 00:17:15,519 there do you think it was a legitimate 336 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:17,380 picture was it something that was 337 00:17:20,250 --> 00:17:18,730 Photoshop because I know we're going to 338 00:17:22,740 --> 00:17:20,260 get all kinds of questions about that so 339 00:17:26,279 --> 00:17:22,750 in your opinion you're looking at it was 340 00:17:30,180 --> 00:17:26,289 a color now it was color but you know as 341 00:17:34,279 --> 00:17:30,190 um the desert has a funny way of putting 342 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:34,289 sand prints or dents into the camera um 343 00:17:38,909 --> 00:17:36,730 recall that the photo part of the camera 344 00:17:41,070 --> 00:17:38,919 so you really don't get a crystal clear 345 00:17:43,470 --> 00:17:41,080 picture but you do get a decent clear 346 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:43,480 picture and so you saw that you saw that 347 00:17:47,940 --> 00:17:45,730 he produced a picture that yeah he 348 00:17:50,549 --> 00:17:47,950 produced silver pictures he put his two 349 00:17:51,930 --> 00:17:50,559 pictures of where the ammo Depot was at 350 00:17:54,210 --> 00:17:51,940 you know where they were basically 351 00:17:56,669 --> 00:17:54,220 sleeping at night some of the patrols 352 00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:56,679 that they were on and of course the 353 00:18:01,049 --> 00:17:59,440 pyramid brandon brandon hall hall far 354 00:18:02,460 --> 00:18:01,059 out of the ground did he tell you this 355 00:18:05,940 --> 00:18:02,470 pyramid was sticking up how much was 356 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:05,950 showing from from my guests may he 357 00:18:10,740 --> 00:18:07,510 really say how much how high was on the 358 00:18:12,779 --> 00:18:10,750 ground but i would say least 60 feet 60 359 00:18:14,909 --> 00:18:12,789 while i was thinking more like 12 feet 360 00:18:17,940 --> 00:18:14,919 or ty was thinking three feel I thought 361 00:18:19,799 --> 00:18:17,950 about that too Ken yeah yeah it was a 362 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:19,809 well hey oh it depends on how big this 363 00:18:26,039 --> 00:18:21,490 damn thing is I guess it's all relative 364 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,049 but so I did was there any reference in 365 00:18:29,549 --> 00:18:28,240 the foreground I mean or was it just a 366 00:18:31,169 --> 00:18:29,559 picture of the pyramid or was there a 367 00:18:33,269 --> 00:18:31,179 picture of him his buddies or whatever 368 00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:33,279 you got pictures of him this buzz you 369 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:35,200 gotta pictures of the Humvee vehicles 370 00:18:41,149 --> 00:18:37,510 that they used and some other the 371 00:18:43,710 --> 00:18:41,159 vehicles that they were using on site 372 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:43,720 one picture of where the actual tank 373 00:18:47,580 --> 00:18:45,760 commander you actually see the tip of 374 00:18:51,990 --> 00:18:47,590 the aprons barrel and from the picture 375 00:18:55,289 --> 00:18:52,000 in front of the it's in the picture with 376 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:55,299 the pyramid with the pyramid Creek wow 377 00:18:59,310 --> 00:18:58,090 yeah yeah okay so I mean you can 378 00:19:01,710 --> 00:18:59,320 definitely see where 379 00:19:04,410 --> 00:19:01,720 whether we're standing and where the 380 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:04,420 pyramid did raise above them okay 10 381 00:19:09,210 --> 00:19:07,210 I've got a question here and this comes 382 00:19:13,530 --> 00:19:09,220 once again from Maryland she's done some 383 00:19:16,350 --> 00:19:13,540 research and apparently the Saddam 384 00:19:19,470 --> 00:19:16,360 Hussein had some bunkers that he built 385 00:19:22,650 --> 00:19:19,480 in and around Fallujah and Baghdad 386 00:19:25,530 --> 00:19:22,660 whatever and he covered them and they 387 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:25,540 were pyramid in shape do you think I 388 00:19:30,510 --> 00:19:27,970 mean go ahead this was a nice ammo 389 00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:30,520 bunker or storage bunker at least well 390 00:19:34,770 --> 00:19:33,280 night when I was over southern Iraq when 391 00:19:38,210 --> 00:19:34,780 I did my time over that we did find 392 00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:38,220 these bunkers that Saddam had made they 393 00:19:43,290 --> 00:19:40,990 not necessary pyramid shape they did 394 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:43,300 take form of a pyramid but they were not 395 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:45,520 exactly a pyramid we did a good job of 396 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:49,840 blowing most of those up okay okay but 397 00:19:56,310 --> 00:19:53,370 what you saw in the picture was it was 398 00:19:59,280 --> 00:19:56,320 like you were looking in Egypt okay and 399 00:20:01,140 --> 00:19:59,290 what color was it it was more like a 400 00:20:04,050 --> 00:20:01,150 tannish desert when most of it was 401 00:20:06,750 --> 00:20:04,060 covered up by the sand there was a tip 402 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:06,760 of it though was a almost a glass glass 403 00:20:12,180 --> 00:20:10,450 looking crystal maybe so Brandon a 404 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:12,190 question from chad from american road 405 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:14,890 where was was the capstone on it so it 406 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:16,930 did have appointed top completely it did 407 00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:18,760 out there it was a full-on pyramid he 408 00:20:24,930 --> 00:20:20,710 didn't have not like the Pyramid of Giza 409 00:20:29,310 --> 00:20:24,940 but it did have the top up top okay okay 410 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:29,320 thank you Bill from New you're like yeah 411 00:20:33,930 --> 00:20:31,930 Brandon else go ahead Brandon Oh like I 412 00:20:36,150 --> 00:20:33,940 said they did track the power source to 413 00:20:38,190 --> 00:20:36,160 the pyramid so they knew that something 414 00:20:40,590 --> 00:20:38,200 was disrupting the communications from 415 00:20:42,930 --> 00:20:40,600 that location is that that's what ryan 416 00:20:45,090 --> 00:20:42,940 told you that they were able to that was 417 00:20:47,580 --> 00:20:45,100 where they were having trouble with her 418 00:20:49,260 --> 00:20:47,590 communication I was yes I was that was 419 00:20:52,890 --> 00:20:49,270 where they are getting all their power 420 00:20:54,540 --> 00:20:52,900 spikes mmm interesting now bill from New 421 00:20:56,910 --> 00:20:54,550 York had a question to for you Brandon 422 00:20:58,170 --> 00:20:56,920 did he provide any preachers or I mean 423 00:20:59,820 --> 00:20:58,180 he provided the pictures but did he 424 00:21:03,510 --> 00:20:59,830 provide an exact location of this 425 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:03,520 pyramid he would not only reason why 426 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:06,310 because he says more I know the more 427 00:21:12,190 --> 00:21:08,650 trouble I would be because i will give 428 00:21:15,029 --> 00:21:12,200 you everything that I know to a point 429 00:21:18,539 --> 00:21:15,039 did he show you any other documentation 430 00:21:21,519 --> 00:21:18,549 he did show me show me his August at his 431 00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:21,529 Navy SEAL freaking in his emblem that he 432 00:21:30,399 --> 00:21:24,950 got his unit patch even his uh tridon 433 00:21:35,019 --> 00:21:30,409 with the anchor I'm very much all 434 00:21:38,769 --> 00:21:35,029 signifies sealed with what rank was he 435 00:21:46,060 --> 00:21:38,779 do you know he i were wise gamez DD 214 436 00:21:47,769 --> 00:21:46,070 E was a staff sergeant ok or at least a 437 00:21:50,139 --> 00:21:47,779 naval rank equivalent to a staff 438 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:50,149 sergeant yeah what was that oh that's an 439 00:21:56,620 --> 00:21:55,250 e5 he still died BTW 6 e 6 ok the 440 00:21:58,330 --> 00:21:56,630 Brandon we have another question from 441 00:22:01,840 --> 00:21:58,340 chat bill from New York did he provide 442 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:01,850 you what year this picture was taken the 443 00:22:08,289 --> 00:22:06,710 picture was taken I would like that he 444 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:08,299 did not give me but I was right before 445 00:22:15,940 --> 00:22:10,090 the Iraqi war so it's got to be within 446 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:15,950 98 99 would imagine ok interesting how 447 00:22:19,149 --> 00:22:17,570 many pictures did he show you as 448 00:22:21,460 --> 00:22:19,159 evidence I mean did he come in with an 449 00:22:23,830 --> 00:22:21,470 envelope maybe 10 15 pictures or did you 450 00:22:25,690 --> 00:22:23,840 have a lot of them he had quite a few of 451 00:22:27,159 --> 00:22:25,700 them some of them that we did not go 452 00:22:29,889 --> 00:22:27,169 through all of them completely do the 453 00:22:31,930 --> 00:22:29,899 time in restrictions and other things 454 00:22:35,860 --> 00:22:31,940 that took her taking place that day hmm 455 00:22:39,909 --> 00:22:35,870 ok interesting very and I don't know 456 00:22:43,930 --> 00:22:39,919 just so our listeners understand it you 457 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:43,940 interacted with ryan for about several 458 00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:46,850 months or so oh he did I had the I had 459 00:22:49,930 --> 00:22:48,559 to earn his trust before he opened up to 460 00:22:51,519 --> 00:22:49,940 me at all I was going to say this wasn't 461 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:51,529 like the second meeting and next thing 462 00:22:54,220 --> 00:22:52,730 know you guys were breaking bread 463 00:22:57,580 --> 00:22:54,230 together and I'm showing you all yet it 464 00:22:59,680 --> 00:22:57,590 up it took me a while the you know he 465 00:23:01,240 --> 00:22:59,690 had to trust me and I a lot of military 466 00:23:02,769 --> 00:23:01,250 jog and was thrown back and forth to 467 00:23:06,190 --> 00:23:02,779 each other I think it was more of a 468 00:23:10,269 --> 00:23:06,200 feeling out period Sean his behalf and 469 00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:10,279 just so I can tell our listeners I first 470 00:23:17,289 --> 00:23:14,990 heard about this story about three years 471 00:23:18,770 --> 00:23:17,299 ago four years ago when when Brandon 472 00:23:24,260 --> 00:23:18,780 first 473 00:23:27,980 --> 00:23:24,270 well 2007 wasn't it correct yeah when 474 00:23:32,050 --> 00:23:27,990 when Brandon first got a hold of me and 475 00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:32,060 told me the story and then I I'll tell I 476 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:34,230 think I've already broached a little bit 477 00:23:37,490 --> 00:23:35,490 with our listeners that I have 478 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:37,500 additional information that parallels 479 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:39,930 about something going on over in Iraq 480 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:44,490 from and and MJ you know this was Judy 481 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:46,770 or society she was on the board of the 482 00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:50,250 mutual UFO network when John Schuessler 483 00:23:56,930 --> 00:23:54,360 was the international director and I'll 484 00:23:59,660 --> 00:23:56,940 go into that later on but you know the 485 00:24:03,020 --> 00:23:59,670 information that she provided adds more 486 00:24:04,910 --> 00:24:03,030 smoke okay to this reasonable suspicion 487 00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:04,920 point that i'm at now so go ahead 488 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:06,600 brandon i'm sorry i got off on a little 489 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:08,850 bit of tangent there but i just wanted 490 00:24:12,590 --> 00:24:10,710 to update our listeners that it took a 491 00:24:15,470 --> 00:24:12,600 little bit of time for you to break down 492 00:24:16,580 --> 00:24:15,480 this guy to where he would came forward 493 00:24:17,780 --> 00:24:16,590 with his stuff just like i said it 494 00:24:20,780 --> 00:24:17,790 wasn't a second meeting and you guys 495 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:20,790 were breaking bread together no no it it 496 00:24:25,610 --> 00:24:23,970 took a lot of likes a lot of a lot a lot 497 00:24:28,370 --> 00:24:25,620 of mistrust on his side there's a lot of 498 00:24:30,430 --> 00:24:28,380 you so he would kill you would it where 499 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:30,440 you met him and he continued to meet him 500 00:24:34,670 --> 00:24:33,210 was at your place of work he would come 501 00:24:36,260 --> 00:24:34,680 in and do a shop and did you ever go to 502 00:24:38,930 --> 00:24:36,270 his house or his apartment did you ever 503 00:24:41,330 --> 00:24:38,940 know where he lived I knew he know I 504 00:24:45,020 --> 00:24:41,340 actually did not he would never divulge 505 00:24:46,850 --> 00:24:45,030 that information and I said even when 506 00:24:48,860 --> 00:24:46,860 we're talking it was always looking over 507 00:24:50,330 --> 00:24:48,870 his shoulders you know always looking 508 00:24:52,060 --> 00:24:50,340 for a clear exit out the place that case 509 00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:52,070 you had to leave quickly he was never 510 00:24:58,520 --> 00:24:55,710 never one spot for too long and he he 511 00:25:01,400 --> 00:24:58,530 thought that because well why why did he 512 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:01,410 think that because he knew about this 513 00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:03,510 pyramid and what happened in his unit 514 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:06,150 did the other guys in his unit I mean 515 00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:09,810 are they around or do we know from what 516 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:11,130 I got most likely the most of those guys 517 00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:13,650 are not around most of his team unit is 518 00:25:22,820 --> 00:25:20,460 now deceased hmm now okay so maybe there 519 00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:22,830 was a little justification to his 520 00:25:26,420 --> 00:25:24,720 paranoia well let me ask you this 521 00:25:28,570 --> 00:25:26,430 question because I know there's people 522 00:25:31,790 --> 00:25:28,580 out there they're listening or going to 523 00:25:32,390 --> 00:25:31,800 your opinion and that's what we have to 524 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,400 go on be 525 00:25:37,460 --> 00:25:33,840 because you interacted with them and you 526 00:25:39,110 --> 00:25:37,470 got to know Ryan at least to the extent 527 00:25:42,530 --> 00:25:39,120 where he started trusting you with why 528 00:25:45,740 --> 00:25:42,540 he was wearing Kevlar vest and and you 529 00:25:49,190 --> 00:25:45,750 know armor bulletproof vest and stuff I 530 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:49,200 did did you believe him oh absolutely i 531 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:51,330 mean there's dealing with the general 532 00:25:55,310 --> 00:25:52,890 public on a daily basis you can just 533 00:25:57,380 --> 00:25:55,320 write he had nothing nothing to hide he 534 00:25:59,360 --> 00:25:57,390 was just here here it is take it for 535 00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,370 Lieber he was explaining to you why he 536 00:26:05,510 --> 00:26:01,200 was paranoid yeah this is this is reason 537 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:05,520 why I am Who I am right now I so the guy 538 00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:08,730 wasn't crazy in any ass enough why and 539 00:26:12,110 --> 00:26:10,230 that's why I'm sure there are you know 540 00:26:15,410 --> 00:26:12,120 people listening it or wondering if this 541 00:26:17,570 --> 00:26:15,420 guy was you know off on the deep end and 542 00:26:19,670 --> 00:26:17,580 he was out there you know schizophrenic 543 00:26:21,290 --> 00:26:19,680 it and and was imagining all this stuff 544 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:21,300 but your personal opinion Eve interact 545 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:25,970 with him he's seen I mean sober and 546 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:29,130 lucent right very very simple very loose 547 00:26:35,290 --> 00:26:31,250 and very up to date on current events 548 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:35,300 very knowledgeable of certain events and 549 00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:42,570 and and he was presenting you with his 550 00:26:47,930 --> 00:26:45,600 DD 214 which is it I mean I I mean it's 551 00:26:51,380 --> 00:26:47,940 not that that can't be faked and it can 552 00:26:53,990 --> 00:26:51,390 you know and that you can have all kinds 553 00:26:56,690 --> 00:26:54,000 of documentation printed off the 554 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:56,700 internet but you interacted with this 555 00:27:00,860 --> 00:26:58,290 guy i got and that's what i want to 556 00:27:02,930 --> 00:27:00,870 stress is because brandon's in the 557 00:27:05,060 --> 00:27:02,940 business of dealing with some pretty 558 00:27:09,220 --> 00:27:05,070 hardcore people you have nowhere you 559 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:09,230 works in in the inner city of Denver so 560 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:15,450 he has over the years contacted a 561 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:17,850 multitude of personalities right Brandon 562 00:27:24,830 --> 00:27:22,890 that's good you yeah so I just want to 563 00:27:27,170 --> 00:27:24,840 you know stress to our listeners that 564 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:27,180 you you know you have a feel for people 565 00:27:31,580 --> 00:27:29,250 and that's when I'm asking you do you do 566 00:27:33,860 --> 00:27:31,590 you think this guy was legit oh one 567 00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,870 hundred percent legit okay and then 568 00:27:38,030 --> 00:27:35,520 someone stuff that he that I even seen 569 00:27:41,570 --> 00:27:38,040 it was just it sends chills up my spine 570 00:27:42,590 --> 00:27:41,580 oh so it was just like this is this is 571 00:27:45,860 --> 00:27:42,600 weird 572 00:27:47,570 --> 00:27:45,870 um like I said what really set him off 573 00:27:49,820 --> 00:27:47,580 from anyone elses I've talked to people 574 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:49,830 I've been any know the Air Force or 575 00:27:55,159 --> 00:27:53,490 maybe or the army and I've done this in 576 00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:55,169 this and their military joggin does not 577 00:28:00,260 --> 00:27:58,080 add about the Marines the Marines to the 578 00:28:02,779 --> 00:28:00,270 fellow other Marines but the military 579 00:28:04,010 --> 00:28:02,789 jog doesn't add up you know you like oh 580 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:04,020 where'd you go to school and you know 581 00:28:08,810 --> 00:28:05,760 Ryan was right on this is where I went 582 00:28:10,820 --> 00:28:08,820 to school this is where I joined in this 583 00:28:12,820 --> 00:28:10,830 day I was selected through q course on 584 00:28:14,990 --> 00:28:12,830 this day blah blah just kept on going 585 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:15,000 anyway it just added up and end it all 586 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:16,530 clicked like this just guy knows what 587 00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:18,840 he's talking about versus someone's like 588 00:28:25,330 --> 00:28:21,990 I went to Air Force Academy basic 589 00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:25,340 training in Canada right right right 590 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:28,049 Brandon we got to go ahead Brandon 591 00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:30,330 finish look okay you're fighting Brandon 592 00:28:33,740 --> 00:28:31,919 we got one more question before we take 593 00:28:36,830 --> 00:28:33,750 a quick break this is from redshift ax 594 00:28:38,810 --> 00:28:36,840 now did I the did Ryan speak of any of 595 00:28:41,149 --> 00:28:38,820 the Iraqi natives talking about the 596 00:28:42,860 --> 00:28:41,159 pyramid or his as a historical site it 597 00:28:44,779 --> 00:28:42,870 did any of the locals talk about it that 598 00:28:48,380 --> 00:28:44,789 any that you were aware of did he 599 00:28:51,409 --> 00:28:48,390 mention that Ryan's location was a hist 600 00:28:53,419 --> 00:28:51,419 wrigley desert location um pretty 601 00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:53,429 isolated maybe some of the Moab knew 602 00:28:58,490 --> 00:28:56,190 about it but they I never heard anything 603 00:29:01,730 --> 00:28:58,500 of people talking about or him talking 604 00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:01,740 about it to natives okay well can and 605 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:04,320 and Brandon let's take our one and only 606 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:06,450 break you're listening to a paying radio 607 00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:08,490 special on in rate and on the inception 608 00:29:13,159 --> 00:29:10,110 radio network tonight we're talking 609 00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:13,169 about the so-called Iraqi period and 610 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680 00:33:44,779 --> 00:33:40,860 radio tonight we have a special report 681 00:33:48,049 --> 00:33:44,789 on the Iraqi pyramid with a somebody 682 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:48,059 that talked to a witness that didn't 683 00:33:52,190 --> 00:33:50,490 actually see this type of object 684 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:52,200 sticking out of the ground in the desert 685 00:33:55,460 --> 00:33:54,570 during the first Iraqi war so we're 686 00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:55,470 going to go through some more 687 00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:57,299 information and I am first going to 688 00:34:02,000 --> 00:33:59,039 start off with the next question from 689 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:02,010 chat then Ken will go ahead and talk to 690 00:34:06,889 --> 00:34:04,890 Brandon here to Neutron wants to know 691 00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,899 Brandon was the pyramid first entered by 692 00:34:10,339 --> 00:34:08,639 Saddam force before the American 693 00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:10,349 military did has had what we were the 694 00:34:15,649 --> 00:34:12,270 first ones to enter this did he let you 695 00:34:19,369 --> 00:34:15,659 know about that at all what I gathered 696 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:19,379 was no one knew about it it was just 697 00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:22,530 buried and through time as you know when 698 00:34:27,740 --> 00:34:25,889 San win uncovered it yeah and it was 699 00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:27,750 strictly an accidental encounter right i 700 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:30,270 mean yeah i was just by luck of the draw 701 00:34:33,889 --> 00:34:31,770 you know that's where we're going to put 702 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:33,899 our special forces that put him down he 703 00:34:40,849 --> 00:34:39,330 lose contact we saw it wasn't it wasn't 704 00:34:45,430 --> 00:34:40,859 there now it's there now type of thing 705 00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:49,159 safe to say that the Iraqis didn't know 706 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:51,030 about it was just going to say that can 707 00:34:54,169 --> 00:34:52,649 yeah I mean what Saddam did not know 708 00:34:56,270 --> 00:34:54,179 about this that is just curse you know 709 00:34:58,520 --> 00:34:56,280 what is interesting and once again this 710 00:35:01,070 --> 00:34:58,530 is a little bit of smoke you know even 711 00:35:04,579 --> 00:35:01,080 though we may not have the fire but we 712 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:04,589 established a no-fly zone over the when 713 00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:06,810 Schwarzkopf got stopped from going into 714 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:09,480 Baghdad we immediately put up a no-fly 715 00:35:15,950 --> 00:35:13,050 zone over that part of Iraq where you 716 00:35:17,830 --> 00:35:15,960 know down minonk Kuwait I forget they 717 00:35:20,260 --> 00:35:17,840 had a name for that corridor but 718 00:35:23,260 --> 00:35:20,270 we did establish a no-fly zone over that 719 00:35:26,650 --> 00:35:23,270 area which is not an interesting is 720 00:35:28,270 --> 00:35:26,660 awesome what's that and the no-fly zone 721 00:35:31,710 --> 00:35:28,280 was also blocked out with any terrain 722 00:35:34,450 --> 00:35:31,720 features too it's just a grid locked out 723 00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:34,460 so I don't know that you could even if 724 00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:36,110 you were even be able to google that 725 00:35:42,340 --> 00:35:39,560 part of oh yeah I'm sure they took care 726 00:35:45,130 --> 00:35:42,350 of them I'm sure that you know that was 727 00:35:48,910 --> 00:35:45,140 probably I've got a interesting story 728 00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:48,920 about the Phoenix triangle and satellite 729 00:35:53,260 --> 00:35:51,680 photographs I got myself in a little bit 730 00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:53,270 of hot water on that one but that's 731 00:35:59,260 --> 00:35:56,480 beside the point so it did you get 732 00:36:01,090 --> 00:35:59,270 neutrons question and answer door yeah 733 00:36:02,620 --> 00:36:01,100 yeah yeah that that that'll that'll 734 00:36:04,450 --> 00:36:02,630 cover it so it doesn't sound like you 735 00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,460 know Saddam actually knew about this 736 00:36:07,870 --> 00:36:06,320 place I don't think anybody yeah i mean 737 00:36:09,610 --> 00:36:07,880 the way this thing is unfolding i think 738 00:36:12,130 --> 00:36:09,620 it was you know one of those things were 739 00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,140 just happened to be accident and they 740 00:36:16,870 --> 00:36:14,720 drop these guys in I mean if this bears 741 00:36:18,790 --> 00:36:16,880 fruit they drop these guys in and bingo 742 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:18,800 their communication devices when they 743 00:36:23,950 --> 00:36:21,530 got on station didn't work and so hey I 744 00:36:25,390 --> 00:36:23,960 just want to ask you this question brand 745 00:36:29,260 --> 00:36:25,400 I know we talked about it during the 746 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:29,270 break and that is you saw pictures of 747 00:36:35,410 --> 00:36:33,200 Ryan in full combat gear in Humvees I 748 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:35,420 mean standing next to a Humvee and Abram 749 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:37,450 tank in the foreground and whatnot right 750 00:36:41,110 --> 00:36:39,770 correct like I said yeah so had like 751 00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:41,120 night vision goggles stuff that's 752 00:36:48,850 --> 00:36:45,790 military issued it means it's hard to 753 00:36:50,530 --> 00:36:48,860 deny that type of evidence right right 754 00:36:52,210 --> 00:36:50,540 and that's what I wanted to stress is 755 00:36:55,090 --> 00:36:52,220 that you know the picture that you saw 756 00:36:59,250 --> 00:36:55,100 Brian he was in full combat gear and 757 00:37:04,810 --> 00:36:59,260 that that would be very difficult to 758 00:37:08,050 --> 00:37:04,820 hope's if you will okay so you know back 759 00:37:09,490 --> 00:37:08,060 to you back to Ryan do you know what he 760 00:37:11,290 --> 00:37:09,500 did for a living after he got out of the 761 00:37:13,810 --> 00:37:11,300 Navy do he have any idea I mean he was a 762 00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:13,820 double an expert but I don't recall of 763 00:37:19,090 --> 00:37:16,250 any major explosions going off across 764 00:37:22,690 --> 00:37:19,100 the country during that time after after 765 00:37:26,380 --> 00:37:22,700 a while but what as far as I know he was 766 00:37:29,260 --> 00:37:26,390 unemployed at time that I knew and you 767 00:37:30,730 --> 00:37:29,270 do you know where he was living it was 768 00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,740 he I mean was he staying in a weekly 769 00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:31,520 motel or 770 00:37:36,580 --> 00:37:33,920 apartment or what he was staying at what 771 00:37:38,170 --> 00:37:36,590 he called a dive in hotel that way was 772 00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:38,180 it easy getaway if he needed to get away 773 00:37:44,110 --> 00:37:42,110 and he cut all ties with his family is 774 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:44,120 that what he told you yeah he said he 775 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:46,910 has no contact with his family they 776 00:37:56,890 --> 00:37:48,290 don't know where he's at that type of 777 00:37:58,540 --> 00:37:56,900 scenario okay um so up to this point how 778 00:38:00,280 --> 00:37:58,550 long have you been interacting with Ryan 779 00:38:02,590 --> 00:38:00,290 how long have you he's been showing you 780 00:38:06,100 --> 00:38:02,600 pictures he's been telling you this you 781 00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:06,110 know fantastic story about this pyramid 782 00:38:10,540 --> 00:38:08,990 that they stumbled on two out in the 783 00:38:14,790 --> 00:38:10,550 desert how long how long have you been 784 00:38:18,930 --> 00:38:14,800 interacting with Ryan up to this time Oh 785 00:38:21,790 --> 00:38:18,940 since 2007 till now was a pretty much a 786 00:38:23,140 --> 00:38:21,800 monthly rendezvous we would have said he 787 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:23,150 would come in and come into your store 788 00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:25,610 did you have any way to contact him you 789 00:38:28,810 --> 00:38:26,960 did have a phone number for him at one 790 00:38:30,670 --> 00:38:28,820 time didn't you I did have a phone 791 00:38:34,420 --> 00:38:30,680 number but that was only he had eight 792 00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:34,430 what you call a a card number it was one 793 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:37,430 of those little trash phone said you buy 794 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:39,650 out of Walmart stuff like that temporary 795 00:38:45,310 --> 00:38:42,530 it was never a set phone to him do you 796 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:45,320 think he was homeless no I don't think 797 00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:49,370 game and he's he was a even his armor 798 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:50,870 was cleaned him and he didn't have any 799 00:38:54,670 --> 00:38:52,340 sweat stains on or anything well that's 800 00:38:56,860 --> 00:38:54,680 gonna ask you his appearance he was he 801 00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:56,870 was he wasn't living under a bridge as 802 00:39:00,730 --> 00:38:58,970 what i'm getting at know he had he had 803 00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:00,740 some type of a currency but i don't know 804 00:39:05,620 --> 00:39:03,110 to what extent or where he was getting 805 00:39:07,300 --> 00:39:05,630 it from like i said he was clean cut and 806 00:39:09,790 --> 00:39:07,310 shave and the pictures i did see of Ryan 807 00:39:13,870 --> 00:39:09,800 know where he was full beard and he was 808 00:39:16,540 --> 00:39:13,880 clean-shaven when I knew hmm okay very 809 00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:16,550 interesting and he was full beard when 810 00:39:24,220 --> 00:39:19,640 he was over here back oh yeah he wasn't 811 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:24,230 full beard you he had the ensemble most 812 00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:25,930 special force pictures taken even today 813 00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:30,590 yeah yeah okay so let's continue on with 814 00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:34,510 so you've been interacted with him for 815 00:39:41,770 --> 00:39:38,930 several years now yes and and just solar 816 00:39:44,030 --> 00:39:41,780 listeners know when when Brandon first 817 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:44,040 got a hold of me and said hey you 818 00:39:49,250 --> 00:39:46,530 need to talk to this Ryan character and 819 00:39:53,060 --> 00:39:49,260 and Brandon had filled me in a little 820 00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:53,070 bit um we were in the process of trying 821 00:39:57,350 --> 00:39:56,160 to do that right correct I mean you were 822 00:39:59,960 --> 00:39:57,360 talking to him saying hey you need to 823 00:40:01,970 --> 00:39:59,970 talk to Ken he could he could might be 824 00:40:06,170 --> 00:40:01,980 able to help him in fact I even told you 825 00:40:08,450 --> 00:40:06,180 when you contacted him that his best he 826 00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:08,460 was he was afraid that somebody within 827 00:40:12,170 --> 00:40:10,560 the government was going to take him out 828 00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:12,180 right I mean that's that was his better 829 00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:15,900 I was his yep this is fear and and that 830 00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:17,880 he had he had stumbled across this 831 00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:20,330 secret and he was carrying this burden 832 00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:23,760 basically okay and that was his basis 833 00:40:28,490 --> 00:40:25,680 for he thought they were going to shoot 834 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:28,500 him is what is what his paranor was 835 00:40:36,430 --> 00:40:34,290 right good and and I instructed Brandon 836 00:40:38,780 --> 00:40:36,440 just our listeners know that I said hey 837 00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:38,790 approached him with this angle that if 838 00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:40,830 he wants to get rid of the body armor 839 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:44,820 and get rid of the paranoia paranoia to 840 00:40:49,550 --> 00:40:47,010 come forth with this story and allow me 841 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:49,560 or someone you know it didn't 842 00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:51,450 necessarily have to be me but at least 843 00:40:56,570 --> 00:40:54,180 get the story out there and get it so 844 00:40:59,630 --> 00:40:56,580 that other people were aware of it so 845 00:41:01,310 --> 00:40:59,640 that if something did happen okay and I 846 00:41:02,980 --> 00:41:01,320 don't mean to laugh because it did but I 847 00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:02,990 thought that would be a way of 848 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:06,660 convincing ryan to come on on the show 849 00:41:11,930 --> 00:41:09,290 and talk to us and produce some of the 850 00:41:14,090 --> 00:41:11,940 documentation that he had shown you so 851 00:41:17,290 --> 00:41:14,100 that we could we could do that that 852 00:41:23,660 --> 00:41:17,300 would help and go a long ways to 853 00:41:27,650 --> 00:41:23,670 protecting him right that is correct and 854 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:27,660 I he was very standoffish again and he 855 00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:30,330 went back to like what are you doing to 856 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:33,750 me don't do this types when you 857 00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:35,730 approached him about coming and talking 858 00:41:42,980 --> 00:41:38,850 to me he got paranoid all over again we 859 00:41:44,180 --> 00:41:42,990 got upset very upset he's like I goes 860 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:44,190 this was between you and me who he 861 00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,730 tellin ye telling him don't you know 862 00:41:53,210 --> 00:41:49,200 people's lives are at risk here that was 863 00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:53,220 his paranoia yeah well I go what I told 864 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:55,350 him you know it's calm down relax take a 865 00:41:58,860 --> 00:41:56,410 chill pill 866 00:42:02,130 --> 00:41:58,870 and we'll talk this out when we did and 867 00:42:04,590 --> 00:42:02,140 he was actually leaning towards the idea 868 00:42:09,390 --> 00:42:04,600 even flirting with the fact of doing 869 00:42:11,820 --> 00:42:09,400 just that right I remember about six 870 00:42:15,060 --> 00:42:11,830 months ago you contacted me and said hey 871 00:42:18,510 --> 00:42:15,070 I think I think Ryan's going to talk to 872 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:18,520 you and I gave I told you to give him my 873 00:42:25,380 --> 00:42:21,970 phone number and have him call me and 874 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:25,390 and and start at least a dialogue and a 875 00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:27,610 communication to basically bring him out 876 00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:29,380 of the dark and into the light is how I 877 00:42:34,260 --> 00:42:32,110 was going to approach it and we were 878 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:34,270 working towards just that and you know 879 00:42:40,410 --> 00:42:35,410 when you called me and said hey I think 880 00:42:43,590 --> 00:42:40,420 he's I think he's leaning that way we we 881 00:42:45,690 --> 00:42:43,600 started in earnest of trying to get Ryan 882 00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:45,700 to come talk to me just so listeners 883 00:42:50,610 --> 00:42:47,830 know I never spoke with the man I never 884 00:42:52,830 --> 00:42:50,620 had I never got an opportunity well hey 885 00:42:57,300 --> 00:42:52,840 Brandon won't you won't you tell him 886 00:43:00,170 --> 00:42:57,310 what happened well um again ken was 887 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:00,180 pushing me to get contact with a guy and 888 00:43:05,340 --> 00:43:03,610 all sudden contact stop I never saw the 889 00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:05,350 guy go I don't know where he's at I 890 00:43:08,970 --> 00:43:06,730 think I even told you the couple times 891 00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:08,980 of I haven't seen ya in fact you and I 892 00:43:13,830 --> 00:43:10,900 talked on the phone for a couple of 893 00:43:15,450 --> 00:43:13,840 weeks or months or whatever it was and I 894 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:15,460 kept saying you know hey bran and have 895 00:43:19,980 --> 00:43:17,770 you have you cut and you said I haven't 896 00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:19,990 seen him and the number that you had 897 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:22,030 form was either disconnected or no 898 00:43:28,020 --> 00:43:26,050 longer in use right you correct and a 899 00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:28,030 couple weeks ago while actually a couple 900 00:43:36,990 --> 00:43:31,960 months go by and a fellow police officer 901 00:43:40,860 --> 00:43:37,000 I know look on dpe he goes hey uh we 902 00:43:42,510 --> 00:43:40,870 found your guy I don't found my guy what 903 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:42,520 are you talking about he goes down Ryan 904 00:43:48,630 --> 00:43:44,770 I reward you find him at I've been 905 00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:48,640 looking for you as well he was found in 906 00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:52,390 the alleyway shot he was actually shot 907 00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:58,480 and killed and I believe that to you and 908 00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:00,880 it was a Brandon gave me a case number 909 00:44:05,490 --> 00:44:02,710 get me something that we can go off on 910 00:44:07,730 --> 00:44:05,500 this yeah just like that work let me 911 00:44:09,309 --> 00:44:07,740 interject here real quick whip when when 912 00:44:11,949 --> 00:44:09,319 Brandon notified 913 00:44:14,499 --> 00:44:11,959 me that that Ryan's body had been found 914 00:44:16,299 --> 00:44:14,509 i think in an alley right correct 915 00:44:20,019 --> 00:44:16,309 present what the officer told you that 916 00:44:25,329 --> 00:44:20,029 his body was found at st and i and and 917 00:44:28,809 --> 00:44:25,339 and course i was immediately I told bran 918 00:44:31,089 --> 00:44:28,819 and I said hey get me a case number I 919 00:44:33,309 --> 00:44:31,099 said if you can get the original report 920 00:44:36,519 --> 00:44:33,319 from the officer I mean I know how it 921 00:44:39,729 --> 00:44:36,529 works having been one for 31 years I am 922 00:44:42,579 --> 00:44:39,739 I immediately told bran and I said hey 923 00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:42,589 give me a case number to listen to the 924 00:44:47,229 --> 00:44:44,390 rest of this interview please go to 925 00:44:49,150 --> 00:44:47,239 inception radio network com and register 926 00:44:51,309 --> 00:44:49,160 for the insider's club what is the 927 00:44:52,930 --> 00:44:51,319 insider's club 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